LEST WE FORGET
Saturday’s Tumut rally saw a very positive result gained with a civil meeting of concerned people who do not accept the new draft Brumby management plan. Representatives of NSW National Parks management who fielded the questions and left with what seems a more in-depth appreciation of facts out weighing the science fiction they have been fed about our heritage wild horses.
For those new to our site and others to review, we suggest you take this link –https://engage.environment.nsw.gov.au/protectsnowies – to the public discussion “Have your say” conducted by the Office of Environment & Heritage, now closed, to understand how people with agenda driven hysteria expounding wild horses are destroying the Snowy Mountain environment from suspect science that has only been peer reviewed by academics of the same science.
The once pristine Snowy was serviced by our wild horses roaming free before government introduced unlimited resources which started producing an academic avalanche of engineered science maintaining decades of now unquestionable accepted factual research supported by selective peer review to maintain the continuing cash flow of taxpayer dollars.
There is no equal footing for science outside the chamber of perpetual funding that dare suggest irrefutable evidence against the career pathway of the chosen agenda.
There is a requirement to cull but there is no requirement to slaughter wild horses to extinction.
There are more than enough homes for culled Brumbies off the Snowy by removing National Park staff interference to allow the “Brumby Runners” unrestricted access to do the job their forefathers did before National Parks.
Total lack of constructive research with producing this article reflects again media capitulation to establishments engineered science never peer reviewed outside carefully selected academia engaged in preserving perpetual taxpayer funding from government grants who achieve required results. .
Demonizing our Brumbies is now an obsession with environmentalist content accepting findings from targeted studies that would collapse under any serious research. It is akin to beer hall days of early Nazi Germany where selected agendas were sold to a frenzied nation by fear mongering and lies dismissing reality in support of fanatics.
A fine example are the two PhD’s, Dr Don Driscoll – Research Fellow in Ecology at Australian National University Dr Sam Banks – ARC Future Fellow, Fenner School of Environment and Society at Australian National University who remain the laughing stock of the world with their report that “Brumbies are Cannibals”
Any challenge to the establishment by non compliant science or irrefutable historic evidence is taken as a threat to their existence, like the $3.3 million taxpayer funding for reviews over the past decade that is now under attack from the awakening public now showing concern to the killing of our heritage wild horses to appease false science and funding.
Before you kill all of our Brumbies, let me put this proposal to the establishment being totally confident to decades of researching the Brumby that a herd of wild horses be allocated to an area [this land belonging to the people] of the Snowy Mountain for a period of 3 years and it subjected to environmental husbandry and scientific research that has been dismissed and/or omitted which held the Snowy in pristine condition prior to this academic agenda driven machine reinvented the environment.
Realising government and self proclaimed environmentalists have terminated all efforts to conduct such research in the past for fear of damning results, you now are telling Australians their heritage horses are to be exterminated without a chance of any defence from challenging science and historic evidence being allowed.
A self proclaimed National Parks person Robbert Gibbs [ pictured in the article below] conducted meetings in Tumut NSW called by concerned citizens about the Brumby exterminations by National Parks at which he stated, “if it was up to me I would get rid of ALL the Brumbies” .
This is wrong to allow the genocide of our national heritage horse to occur without serious challenge to the authenticity of the research funded by you. Contact your federal and state member now to halt this pending slaughter for funding.
November 22, 2015 12:00am –The Sunday Telegraph
TO SHOOT or not to shoot? It’s the question that will determine the fate of the estimated 6000 wild horses that roam Kosciuszko National Park.
But the debate on how to effectively control the rapidly rising numbers of brumbies in the area has become so passionate it has even divided the NSW Government.
The NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service (NPWS) claims the increasing population and competition for grazing areas was pushing the wild horses into sensitive wilderness areas, threatening native broad-toothed rats, alpine water skinks and the endangered sphagnum bog.
Trapping and removal programs have largely failed to curb the rising numbers, with the population estimated to be increasing by 20 per cent a year, and more radical approaches are being considered.
Ground shooting, helicopter mustering together with sterilisation are among the options on the table, with an independent panel of scientists and vets exploring all measures.
With the five-year horse management plan under review, the Government is also under pressure to adopt a long-term strategy given the $3.3 million cost to taxpayers over the past decade of reviews and temporary removal programs.
Landholders, such as former Nationals MP Peter Cochran, who wants traditional removal methods such as brumby running returned, fear more drastic measures will be implemented.
“There has been sufficient pressure put on the Government by the environment movement and others that they are going to do a one-off wholesale shootout,” he said.
“It’s a gut feeling but I don’t think they can see a way around it. If they do, they’ll regret it. We’re ready to fight.”
Horse estimates vary from 4000 to 8000, with numbers rising despite the 2003 fires killing several thousand and an ongoing removal program.
When The Sunday Telegraph flew over the park, more than 300 were sighted in separate herds in less than hour.
NPWS project officer and wild horse manager Rob Gibbs said the current trapping program was failing to keep numbers down, while also being expensive at around $1000 per horse.
In the past five years, 2043 have been removed with homes found for 567. The rest have been trucked to local slaughter yards.
Several stakeholders The Sunday Telegraph spoke with claim forcing brumbies onto trucks is cruel, with the horses better off euthanased on site.
“The issue that we have with passive trapping is that it is not keeping up with population increases,” Mr Gibbs said.
“We also have concerns with the humaneness of passive trapping, particularly when a large percentage of those horses end up being transported to abattoir for slaughter. As for rehoming them, there’s just not the demand.
“That then forces us into having to transport horses large distances to have them euthanased, which we have concerns about.”
Some park neighbours have taken matters into their own hands, with several brumbies recently found shot dead near the Victorian border.
Mr Cochran, who conducts horse riding treks through the park, said there wouldn’t be a problem had traditional methods such as riders rounding up brumbies not been outlawed.
“They’re talking about doing this with helicopters, but this has limited success in an area like this because they get in among the bushes,” he said.
“I see no reason why brumby runners shouldn’t do the same thing.’’
After initially entertaining a lifting of the ban on aerial culling that was put in place after a botched cull in Guy Fawkes National Park, the Government has declared it will stay in place.
NSW Environment Minister Mark Speakman, who is planning a site visit before a draft plan of management is released next year, said there was a need to protect the park.
However, Regional Development Minister John Barilaro, whose Monaro electorate lies in the heart of the Snowy Mountains, wants a “non-lethal” approach.
“Brumbies are so strongly linked to our heritage that the thought of them being slaughtered makes me sick,” he told parliament earlier this year.
A panel of experts is assessing options ahead of the NSW government making a decision on the future of the Snowy Mountains’ brumbies. Among the options include:
1. Passive trapping: The method is already underway, but those involved say it is failing to reduce numbers. Those unable to be re-homed are trucked to the slaughter yard
2. Re-homing: Supported by Monaro MP John Barilaro, but NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service say they struggle to find takers for the brumbies they catch already
3. Aerial culling: Would require an overturn of the ban imposed by the Carr government after public outcry over the massacre of horses in Guy Fawkes River National Park of 2000
4. Brumby-running: Traditional method where horses are chased by local riders, not unlike in the movie The Man from Snowy River
5. Helicopter-mustering: Horses naturally flee the helicopter into a holding yard
6. Ground-shooting: Controversial but deemed by some as more humane than trucking horses to slaughter
7. Sterilisation: Sterilisation gun used to target mares, although only lasts two-three years
8. Do nothing: Park managers claim horses will eventually occupy the entire park if removal efforts are not increased, putting native plants and animals under threat
An e-mail containing no text was received from Rob Gibbs, Ranger Kosciuszko National Park, Wild Horse Management Plan Review Project, which sums up this persons public relation communication skill.
Attached was the latest info from the loaded dice Green fraternity ruling the so called independent Kosciuszko National Park Wild Horse Management Plan.
It reminds one of a CON-vened “Royal Commission” – only when the right commissioner is selected with terms of reference set to establish the required findings that suit the hidden agenda.
Remember: “If you play by their rules – YOU LOSE”
Your never certain how successful a website is going to be, a sure indication is when people contribute with comments.
Snowy Brumby site has been very active here and on facebook to an extent that a ratbag greenie, the kind that are destroying our environment with engineered science, imitating a farmer comes out of the woodwork.
A comment was lodged in the “Contacts Page” reads as follows:
Submitted on 2015/02/01 at 9:10 pm
Email from: Landowner@snowies.com.au
ISP address: 18.104.22.168
The problem of increasing brumby numbers doesn’t only affect the NP. I’m a private landowner in the snowies and the population on my property alone has increased by 40% in 6 months. At one point I had 42 brumbies on my property. I’m thousands of dollars out of pocket due to damage by brumbies. Broken fences, destroyed crops, increased spread of noxious weeds. I’ve spent years working on my crop to have it demolished in a few days, even with fencing securing it! I’m all up for saving these animals, but please all of you city folk signing up to save these horses, who have no real understanding of the damage they cause to our unique alpine environment, come and get one or two and keep them in your own backyard!!! Why does it have to be mine that they ruin? At the rate they are increasing on my property alone, there is no fear there will ever be none left!!!!!
This was sent from a VODAFONE AUSTRALIA PTY LIMITED account on a registered domain www.snowies.com.au that carries no website presence but details of the owner our computer forensic people have established.
Any farmer, especially from the snowy mountains would suspect this fairytale in a second as did Harry Palmer who replied:
Submitted on 2015/02/02
I have a problem with your credibility – – – – I find your story total fiction well tainted with a green slime I do factually have a very large property in the snowy (not snowies) neighbouring to National Parks the family has owned for 160 years. We suffer noxious weeds from NP as their care is zero with the bird and wind carrying the seed to my property. The brumbies that roam public land (now National Parks) have never in our recorded history broken down a fence, the population over the past 5 years has diminished by 60% and the 12 brumbies we have are an asset to the eco system here we have frogs along the creek and around the dam thriving in their pug holes and no damage to the edges of the creek because there is strong vegetation supporting the earth. Parks next door have no frogs, no wild flowers and a jungle of scrub along their side of the same creek. Go pedal your green poison elsewhere a farmer hahahahaha.
The information has Harry Palmer a client of http://www.tpg.com.au and the ISP places him in the NSW Snowy Mountains.
Unable to contain the challenge, this Landowner@snowies.com.au send his reply from another ISP we have tracked to the University Of NSW and have established the same person this time with the email address of firstname.lastname@example.org that is a dormant website http://www.myisp.com.au .
The reply that shows the real colours of this boofhead and the content you can just imagine a farmer in Australia writing as follows:
^^ You sound like that total knob-end from Snowy Wilderness…
If not – where is your ‘very large’ property then?
Harry Palmer obviously isn’t you real name.
Although Its obvious you are a very firm acquaintance of “Mrs Palmer”
Many readers experienced the public forum run by the NSW Government and National Parks presented to have discussions about the Brumby management program, it proved to be a loaded dice of radical greens and bias moderators that was a bloody disgrace.
This person tried to infiltrate our blog site with this bogus comment to city people with concern for the preservation of our Brumbies, and there is no doubt the greens, the green public servants and vote chasing politicians want the Brumbies dead and gone.
So our volunteer forensic computer people are working further on this person and others uncovered over the past 12 months with a few surprises I feel sure using government computers to pedal their venom.